Weapon Weight Strategy

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Different skills, weapon mods, and armor supposedly have an effect on weapon weight and carrying capacity. The exact effects aren’t explained well with the in-game text.

This strategy guide shows all of the possibilities for weight reduction / weight increase and to confirm / deny all weight claims.

Some of the questions are:
1. Are the weight reductions / increases accurate? If it says 25% reduction – is it really 25%?
2. Are the weight reductions / increases points based or actual percentages?
3. Will the weight reducing armor pieces reduce weight correctly separately and/or combined together as a set?

Overview[edit | edit source]

Positive Power Recharge Speed
Negative Power Recharge Speed

The weight bar in the loadout screen is a visual display of the current power recharge speed based on the amount of weight the player is currently carrying. Equipping a weapon, changing an existing weapon to a different weapon, or removing a weapon changes that bar positive or negative due to the addition or reduction of weight.

Certain skills, weapon mods, and armor can affect how much a “weapon” weighs.

There is a small black line on the weapon weight bar. This black line indicates where the +100% power recharge speed blue zone stops and the red penalty zone starts. Increasing weapon weight capacity will move this black line to the right.

Mechanics[edit | edit source]

Weapon weight percentage ranges from 100% to -100%. Each 1 percent can be considered a “weight point”. So if a weapon weighs 43 – that’s 43 weight points or 43%.
30 weight points is the base level - using Tier I Initiative Armor - no skill points spent – Soldier profile in use.
The full base range of weight points is 130. That is 30 weight points in the blue zone and 100 weight points in the red zone.

  • A Pathfinder Deep Impact I weights 30 and power recharge speed is 100% blue.
  • A Raptor V weighs 31 and shows power recharge speed as red with -1%.
  • -100% red is the highest the weight number can go. Equipping four Widow I's has the most weight possible and the -100% was reached with only three Widows. The fourth does nothing.

Testing Methodology[edit | edit source]

A Pathfinder Observer I weighs 50 points. So if two Pathfinder Observers I's are equipped, this will give -70% red. That's 100 total weight points. Some of the smaller weight weapons are light enough that they don’t go over the 30 weight point limit so no change can be seen with a single weapon.
A Soned I weighs 60 points. Two Soneds I's were used to confirm if percentages vs points reduction was being used. 40% of 120 weight points is 48 and not 40. This allows seeing differences easily. Weapon specific skills were tested with a single weapon as well to rule out rounding errors.
Different weapons and weapon weights were used as needed for specific weapon mods.
All weapons listed below are Tier I - no mods or augmentations used - unless otherwise specified.

Skills Results[edit | edit source]

Skills Skill Rank Supposed Benefit Findings
Auxiliary Systems Rank 4A +40% Weapon Weight Capacity 40 weight points of reduction.
Barrier Rank 5B +10% Weapon Weight Capacity 10 weight points of reduction.
Combat Fitness Rank 3 +25% Weapon Weight Capacity 25 weight points of reduction.
Combat Fitness Rank 5A +25% Weapon Weight Capacity 25 weight points of reduction (50 total as Rank 3 is required).
Assault Rifles Rank 4A -25% Assault Rifle Weight 20% decrease - Not weight points.
Pistols Rank 4A -30% Pistol Weight 23-24% decrease - Not weight points.
Shotguns Rank 4A -25% Shotgun Weight 20% decrease - Not weight points.
Sniper Rifles Rank 4A -25% Sniper Rifle Weight 20% decrease - Not weight points.

Auxiliary Systems[edit | edit source]

Double Soned
Double Soned With Auxiliary Systems
Weapon Skill Supposed Benefit Weight Before Weight After
Double Pathfinder Observer Auxiliary Systems +40% Weapon Weight Capacity -70% -30%
Double Soned Auxiliary Systems +40% Weapon Weight Capacity -90% -50%

40% of 120 weight points for the double Soned would be 48 weight points but this isn't what is showing. Instead it is 40 weight points of reduction.

Barrier[edit | edit source]

Double Soned
Double Soned With Barrier
Weapon Skill Supposed Benefit Weight Before Weight After
Double Pathfinder Observer Barrier +10% Weapon Weight Capacity -70% -60%
Double Soned Barrier +10% Weapon Weight Capacity -90% -80%

10 biotic points had to be spent to unlock barrier. The first 4 Ranks of Nova were chosen and the weight numbers did not change with these skill points spent. 10% of 120 weight points for the double Soned would be 12 weight points but this isn't what is showing. Instead it is 10 weight points of reduction.

Combat Fitness Rank 3[edit | edit source]

Double Soned
Double Soned With Combat Fitness Rank 3
Weapon Skill Supposed Benefit Weight Before Weight After
Double Pathfinder Observer Combat Fitness Rank 3 +25% Weapon Weight Capacity -70% -45%
Double Soned Combat Fitness Rank 3 +25% Weapon Weight Capacity -90% -65%

25% of 120 Weight points for the double Soned would be 30 weight points but this isn't what is showing. Instead it is 25 weight points of reduction.

Combat Fitness Rank 5A[edit | edit source]

Double Soned
Double Soned With Combat Fitness Rank 5A
Weapon Skill Supposed Benefit Weight Before Weight After
Double Pathfinder Observer Combat Fitness Rank 5A +25% Weapon Weight Capacity -70% -20%
Double Soned Combat Fitness Rank 5A +25% Weapon Weight Capacity -90% -40%

50% of 120 weight points for the double Soned (25% from Rank 3 and 25% from Rank 5) would be 60 weight points but this isn't what is showing. Instead it is 25 weight points (50 total) of reduction.

Assault Rifles[edit | edit source]

Double Cyclone
Double Cyclone With Assault Rifles
Weapon Skill Supposed Benefit Weight Before Weight After
Double Soned Assault Rifles -25% Assault Rifle Weight -90% -66%
Single Soned Assault Rifles -25% Assault Rifle Weight -30% -18%
Double Cyclone Assault Rifles -25% Assault Rifle Weight -40% -26%
Single Cyclone Assault Rifles -25% Assault Rifle Weight -5% +100%
Assault Rifles
  • The Soned weighs 60 before the Assault Rifles skill and 48 after the skill. This is a 20% decrease.
  • The Cyclone weighs 35 before the Assault Rifles skill and 28 after the skill. This is a 20% decrease.

This is not a weight point decrease but a percentage decrease. However, it is not a 25% decrease. The Soned should weight 45 and the Cyclone should weigh 26.25 (26 likely) for a 25% decrease. These are not the numbers found.

Pistols[edit | edit source]

Double Talon
Double Talon With Pistols
Weapon Skill Supposed Benefit Weight Before Weight After
Double Talon Pistols -30% Pistol Weight -30% -16%
Single Talon Pistols -30% Pistol Weight +100% +100%
Double N7 Hurricane Pistols -30% Pistol Weight -20% -8%
Single N7 Hurricane Pistols -30% Pistol Weight +100% +100%
Pistols
  • The Talon weighs 30 before the Pistols skill and 23 after the skill. This is an ~23% decrease.
  • The N7 Hurricane weighs 25 before the Pistols skill and 19 after the skill. This is a 24% decrease.

This is not a weight point decrease but a percentage decrease. However, it is not a 30% decrease. The Talon should weight 21 and the N7 Hurricane should weigh 17.5 (18 likely) for a 30% decrease. These are not the numbers found.

Shotguns[edit | edit source]

Double Hesh
Double Hesh With Shotguns
Weapon Skill Supposed Benefit Weight Before Weight After
Double N7 Piranha Shotguns -25% Shotgun Weight -70% -50%
Single N7 Piranha Shotguns -25% Shotgun Weight -20% -10%
Double Hesh Shotguns -25% Shotgun Weight -50% -34%
Single Hesh Shotguns -25% Shotgun Weight -10% -2%
Shotguns
  • The N7 Piranha weighs 50 before the Shotguns skill and 40 after the skill. This is a 20% decrease.
  • The Hesh weighs 40 before the Shotguns skill and 32 after the skill. This is a 20% decrease.

This is not a weight point decrease but a percentage decrease. However, it is not a 25% decrease. The N7 Piranha should weight 37.5 (38 likely) and the Hesh should weigh 30 for a 25% decrease. These are not the numbers found.

Sniper Rifles[edit | edit source]

Double Widow
Double Widow With Sniper Rifles
Weapon Skill Supposed Benefit Weight Before Weight After
Double Pathfinder Observer Sniper Rifles -25% Sniper Rifle Weight -70% -50%
Single Pathfinder Observer Sniper Rifles -25% Sniper Rifle Weight -20% -10%
Double Widow Sniper Rifles -25% Sniper Rifle Weight -100% -74%
Single Widow Sniper Rifles -25% Sniper Rifle Weight -35% -22%
Sniper Rifles
  • The Pathfinder Observer weighs 50 before the Sniper Rifles skill and 40 after the skill. This is a 20% decrease.
  • The Widow weighs 65 before the Sniper Rifles skill and 52 after the skill. This is a 20% decrease.

This is not a weight point decrease but a percentage decrease. However, it is not a 25% decrease. The Pathfinder Observer should weigh 37.5 (38 likely) and the Widow should weight 50 for a 25% decrease. These are not the numbers found.

Mods Results[edit | edit source]

Mods Supposed Benefit Findings
AR Heavy Magazine +3% to +10% Weight Percentage based - Numbers are close to listed amount but fluctuate plus or minus based on the specific weapon and mod level.
AR Heavy Stock +3% to +10% Weight Percentage based - Numbers are close to listed amount but fluctuate plus or minus based on the specific weapon and mod level.
Pistol Heavy Magazine +3% to +10% Weight Percentage based - Numbers are double the listed amount.
Pistol Heavy Scope +3% to +10% Weight Percentage based - Numbers are double the listed amount.
Shotgun Heavy Melee +3% to +10% Weight Percentage based - Appears to be within rounding error.
SR Ultra-Light Materials -8% to -14% Weight Percentage based - Numbers are lower than listed amount.
SR Experimental Materials -12% to -25% Weight Percentage based - Numbers are lower than listed amount.
SR Latticed Materials -12% to -25% Weight Percentage based - Numbers are lower than listed amount.
SR Heavy Spare Clip +3% to +10% Weight Percentage based - Appears to be within rounding error.
SR Tactical Scope +3% to +10% Weight Percentage based - Appears to be within rounding error.

Assault Rifle Mods[edit | edit source]

Single Cyclone
Single Cyclone With AR Heavy Magazine X
Weapon Mod Supposed Benefit Weight Before Weight After
Single Soned AR Heavy Stock III +4% Weight -30% -33%
Single Soned AR Heavy Stock VII +8% Weight -30% -35%
Single Soned AR Heavy Stock VII +10% Weight -30% -37%
Single Soned AR Heavy Magazine III +4% Weight -30% -33%
Single Soned AR Heavy Magazine VII +8% Weight -30% -35%
Single Soned AR Heavy Magazine X +10% Weight -30% -37%
Single Cyclone AR Heavy Stock III +4% Weight -5% -6%
Single Cyclone AR Heavy Stock VII +8% Weight -5% -8%
Single Cyclone AR Heavy Stock X +10% Weight -5% -9%
Single Cyclone AR Heavy Magazine III +4% Weight -5% -6%
Single Cyclone AR Heavy Magazine VII +8% Weight -5% -8%
Single Cyclone AR Heavy Magazine X +10% Weight -5% -9%
Assault Rifle Mods
  • The Soned weighs 60 before the AR Heavy Stock III, VII, & X and AR Heavy Magazine III, VII, & X mod, and 63/65/67 after all of the mods. This is a 5-11.7% increase.
  • The Cyclone weighs 35 before the AR Heavy Stock III, VII, & X and AR Heavy Magazine III, VII, & X mod, and 36/38/39 after all of the mods. This is a 2.8-11.4% increase.

These are percentage based increases and not points based increases.

Pistol Mods[edit | edit source]

Double Talon
Double Talon With Pistol Heavy Magazine X
Weapon Mod Supposed Benefit Weight Before Weight After
Double Talon Pistol Heavy Magazine VII +8% Weight -30% -41%
Double Talon Pistol Heavy Magazine X +10% Weight -30% -45%
Double Talon Pistol Heavy Scope III +4% Weight -30% -36%
Double Talon Pistol Heavy Scope VII +8% Weight -30% -41%
Double Talon Pistol Heavy Scope X +10% Weight -30% -45%
Double Hurricane Pistol Heavy Magazine VII +8% Weight -20% -30%
Double Hurricane Pistol Heavy Magazine X +10% Weight -20% -33%
Double Hurricane Pistol Heavy Scope III +4% Weight -20% -24%
Double Hurricane Pistol Heavy Scope VII +8% Weight -20% -30%
Double Hurricane Pistol Heavy Scope X +10% Weight -20% -33%
Pistol Mods
  • The Talon weighs 30 before the Pistol Heavy Magazine VII & X and Pistol Heavy Scope III, VII, & X mod, and 33/35.5/37.5 after all of the mods. This is a 10-25% increase.
  • The N7 Hurricane weighs 25 before Pistol Heavy Magazine VII & X and Pistol Heavy Scope III, VII, & X mod, and 27/30/31.5 after all of the mods. This is an 8-26% increase.

These are percentage based increases and not points based increases.

Shotgun Mods[edit | edit source]

Single N7 Piranha
Single N7 Piranha With Shotgun Heavy Melee X
Weapon Mod Supposed Benefit Weight Before Weight After
Single N7 Piranha Shotgun Heavy Melee III +4% Weight -20% -22%
Single Piranha Shotgun Heavy Melee VI +7% Weight -20% -24%
Single Piranha Shotgun Heavy Melee VII +8% Weight -20% -24%
Single Piranha Shotgun Heavy Melee X +10% Weight -20% -26%
Single Hesh Shotgun Heavy Melee III +4% Weight -10% -12%
Single Hesh Shotgun Heavy Melee VI +7% Weight -10% -13%
Single Hesh Shotgun Heavy Melee VII +8% Weight -10% -13%
Single Hesh Shotgun Heavy Melee X +10% Weight -10% -14%
Shotgun Mods
  • The N7 Piranha weighs 50 before the Shotgun Heavy Melee III, VI, VII, & X mod, and 52/54/56 after all of the mods. This is a 4-12% increase.
  • The Hesh weighs 40 before the Shotgun Heavy Melee III, VI, VII, & X mod, and 42/43/44 after the mods. This is a 5-10% increase.

These are percentage based increases and not points based increases.

Sniper Rifle Mods[edit | edit source]

Single Pathfinder Observer
Single Pathfinder Observer With SR Latticed Materials X
Weapon Mod Supposed Benefit Weight Before Weight After
Single Pathfinder Observer SR Ultra-Light Materials III -9% Weight -20% -16%
Single Pathfinder Observer SR Ultra-Light Materials V -11% Weight -20% -15%
Single Pathfinder Observer SR Ultra-Light Materials VI -11% Weight -20% -15%
Single Pathfinder Observer SR Ultra-Light Materials VII -12% Weight -20% -15%
Single Pathfinder Observer SR Ultra-Light Materials X -14% Weight -20% -14%
Single Pathfinder Observer SR Experimental Materials III -11% Weight -20% -15%
Single Pathfinder Observer SR Experimental Materials VII -16% Weight -20% -13%
Single Pathfinder Observer SR Experimental Materials X -20% Weight -20% -12%
Single Pathfinder Observer SR Latticed Materials III -11% Weight -20% -15%
Single Pathfinder Observer SR Latticed Materials VI -15% Weight -20% -13%
Single Pathfinder Observer SR Latticed Materials VII -16% Weight -20% -13%
Single Pathfinder Observer SR Latticed Materials X -20% Weight -20% -12%
Single Pathfinder Observer SR Heavy Spare Clip III +4% Weight -20% -22%
Single Pathfinder Observer SR Heavy Spare Clip VI +7% Weight -20% -24%
Single Pathfinder Observer SR Heavy Spare Clip VII +8% Weight -20% -24%
Single Pathfinder Observer SR Heavy Spare Clip X +10% Weight -20% -26%
Single Pathfinder Observer SR Tactical Scope III +4% Weight -20% -22%
Single Pathfinder Observer SR Tactical Scope X +10% Weight -20% -26%
Single Widow SR Ultra-Light Materials III -9% Weight -35% -30%
Single Widow SR Ultra-Light Materials V -11% Weight -35% -29%
Single Widow SR Ultra-Light Materials VI -11% Weight -35% -29%
Single Widow SR Ultra-Light Materials VII -12% Weight -35% -28%
Single Widow SR Ultra-Light Materials X -14% Weight -35% -27%
Single Widow SR Experimental Materials III -11% Weight -35% -29%
Single Widow SR Experimental Materials VII -16% Weight -35% -26%
Single Widow SR Experimental Materials X -20% Weight -35% -24%
Single Widow SR Latticed Materials III -11% Weight -35% -29%
Single Widow SR Latticed Materials VI -15% Weight -35% -27%
Single Widow SR Latticed Materials VII -16% Weight -35% -26%
Single Widow SR Latticed Materials X -20% Weight -35% -24%
Single Widow SR Heavy Spare Clip III +4% Weight -35% -38%
Single Widow SR Heavy Spare Clip VI +7% Weight -35% -40%
Single Widow SR Heavy Spare Clip VII +8% Weight -35% -41%
Single Widow SR Heavy Spare Clip X +10% Weight -35% -42%
Single Widow SR Tactical Scope III +4% Weight -35% -38%
Single Widow SR Tactical Scope X +10% Weight -35% -42%
Pathfinder Observer
  • The Pathfinder Observer weighs 50 before the SR Ultra-Light Materials V, VI, VII, & X mod, and 46/45/44 after the mod. This is an 8-12% decrease.
  • The Pathfinder Observer weighs 50 before the SR Experimental Materials III, VII, & X mod, and 45/43/42 after the mod. This is a 10-16% decrease.
  • The Pathfinder Observer weighs 50 before the SR Latticed Materials III, VI, VII, & X mod, and 45/43/42 after the mod. This is a 10-16% decrease.
  • The Pathfinder Observer weighs 50 before the SR Tactical Scope III & X and SR Heavy Spare Clip III, VI, VII, & X mod, and 52/54/56 after the mod. This is a 4-12% increase.

These are percentage based decreases and not weight points based decreases/increases.

Widow

The Widow weighs 65 before the SR Ultra-Light Materials V, VI, VII, & X mod, and 60/59/58/57 after the mod. This is a 7.7-12.3% decrease.

  • The Widow weighs 65 before the SR Experimental Materials III, VII, & X mod, and 59/56/54 after the mod. This is a 9.2-16.9% decrease.
  • The Widow weighs 65 before the SR Latticed Materials III, VI, VII, & X mod, and 59/57/56/54 after the mod. This is a 9.2-16.9% decrease.
  • The Widow weighs 65 before the SR Tactical Scope III & X and SR Heavy Spare Clip III, VI, VII, & X mod, and 68/70/71/72 after the mod. This is a 4-10.2% increase.

These are percentage based decreases and not weight points based decreases/increases.

Armor Results[edit | edit source]

Armor Supposed Benefit Findings
Scavenger Helmet -10% Weapon Weight Percentage based - Numbers are slightly lower than they should be by around 1-2%.
Scavenger Armor -15% Weapon Weight Percentage based - Numbers are slightly lower than they should be by around 1-2%.
Scavenger Set -25% Weapon Weight Percentage based - 5% lower than they should be when combined - 20% instead of 25%.

Armor Pieces[edit | edit source]

Double Soned
Double Soned With Scavenger Helmet
Weapon Armor Supposed Benefit Weight Before Weight After
Double Pathfinder Observer Scavenger Helmet -10% Weapon Weight -70% -61%
Single Pathfinder Observer Scavenger Helmet -10% Weapon Weight -20% -15%
Double Soned Scavenger Helmet -10% Weapon Weight -90% -79%
Single Soned Scavenger Helmet -10% Weapon Weight -30% -25%
Double Pathfinder Observer Scavenger Armor -15% Weapon Weight -70% -57%
Single Pathfinder Observer Scavenger Armor -15% Weapon Weight -20% -13%
Double Soned Scavenger Armor -15% Weapon Weight -90% -74%
Single Soned Scavenger Armor -15% Weapon Weight -30% -22%
Scavenger Helmet
  • The double Pathfinder Observer weighs 100 before the Scavenger Helmet and 91 with the helmet. This is a 9% reduction.
  • The single Pathfinder Observer weighs 50 before the Scavenger Helmet and 45 with the helmet. This is a 10% reduction.
  • The double Soned weighs 120 before the Scavenger Helmet and 109 with the helmet. This is an ~9% reduction.
  • The single Soned weighs 60 before the Scavenger Helmet and 55 with the helmet. This is an 8.3% reduction.

These are percentage based increases and not points based increases.

Scavenger Armor
  • The double Pathfinder Observer weighs 100 before the Scavenger Armor and 87 with the armor alone. This is a 13% reduction.
  • The single Pathfinder Observer weighs 50 before the Scavenger Armor and 43 with the armor alone. This is a 14% reduction.
  • The double Soned weighs 120 before the Scavenger Armor and 104 with the armor alone. This is an ~13.3% reduction.
  • The single Soned weighs 60 before the Scavenger Armor and 52 with the armor alone. This is an ~13.3% reduction.

These are percentage based increases and not points based increases.

Armor Set[edit | edit source]

Double Pathfinder Observer
Double Observer With Scavenger Set
Weapon Armor Supposed Benefit Weight Before Weight After
Double Pathfinder Observer Scavenger Set -25% Weapon Weight -70% -50%
Single Pathfinder Observer Scavenger Set -25% Weapon Weight -20% -10%
Double Soned Scavenger Set -25% Weapon Weight -90% -66%
Single Soned Scavenger Set -25% Weapon Weight -30% -18%
Scavenger Set
  • The double Pathfinder Observer weighs 100 before the Scavenger Set and 80 with the armor set. This is a 20% reduction.
  • The single Pathfinder Observer weighs 50 before the Scavenger Set and 40 with the armor set. This is a 20% reduction.
  • The double Soned weighs 120 before the Scavenger Set and 96 with the armor set. This is a 20% reduction.
  • The single Soned weighs 60 before the Scavenger Set and 48 with the armor set. This is a 20% reduction.

These are percentage based increases and not points based increases.